Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair

A lot of people expressed contempt for Hillary Clinton because, during the months when her husband denied having an affair, she denied knowing or believing that he had had an affair. And she only acknowledged her husband had had an affair when her husband acknowledged that he had had an affair.

Now, John Edwards had admitted to having a (much more pedestrian) affair. I think we know that in both cases, poliical wives who were committed to their husbands' political careers did what they believed they should do and had to do in the face of their husbands'  affairs: they kept up appearances for as long as they could, until their husbands were compelled to admit to the public that they were lying.  And the wives,  too, were lying when they denied knowing of their husbands' affairs before they were announced to the public. In fact Elizabeth Edwards acknowledges knowing about the affair, even as she criss-crossed the country, urging America to believe that John Edwards was a better bet as a presidential candidate than Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, without warning us that if he were nominated his campaign might erupt into a sex scandal. Is there any way to avoid the conclusion that Elizabeth Edwards is just as dishonest as her husband has been?

It is now apparent that angelic Elizabeth Edwards participated in a national charade to put "honest" John Edwards' name on the presidential ballot regardless of what it might do to the Democrats' chances of winning the presidency.

John Edwards signature issue (as soon as he left the Senate and began running for the presidency) was the eradication of poverty, yet how would destroying the Democrats' chances of winning the White House have helped America's poor? As I asked on February 20, 2007, "How, specifically, is electing John Edwards going to reduce the poverty of women and minorities?" Now, it's apparent that even nominating John Edwards would have prejudiced the interests of the very minorities John Edwards said he wanted to help.

And Elizabeth Edwards was his accomplice.

John Edwards candidacy was premised on the proposition that he was an honest, decent and loving family man whose commitment to ending poverty was more than a campaign artifice to make his ambition seem selfless. But he never really offered more evidence of his "lifelong commitment" than the fact that he was honest when he professed it. And even the phrase "lifelong" really only meant "from 2004 onward". Now, his dishonesty about his affair compels us to question, once again, his credibility about his commitment to eradicating poverty.

And the fact that his wife campaigned for him vigorously, knowing that he was lying to us about the affair, makes her just as politically responsible as her husband is.


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Congratulations. (2.00 / 7)

You bashed Elizabeth Edwards and reminded us that Hillary Clinton was in that same awful position, all in the breadth of one dumb diary.  God only knows what your point is.


by Dumbo on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 12:22:35 AM EST

Re: Congratulations. (2.00 / 4)

I just can't improve on what Dumbo says.

Pointless, just pointless.


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by January 20 on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 12:29:29 AM EST
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Re: Congratulations. (2.00 / 2)

This garbage should be removed from this site. I'm positive the Obama campaign completely rejects the hatred you're trying to promote on your blog.


by Jeter on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 03:29:46 AM EST
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This is a comment, not a diary. (none / 0)


by SocialDem on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 12:24:01 AM EST

Re: This is a comment, not a diary. (2.00 / 1)

It's crap linked to a larger pile of crap


by Jeter on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 03:37:08 AM EST
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Re: This is a comment, not a diary. (2.00 / 1)

Not unlike McCain's campaign?


by ProgressiveDL on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 10:00:27 AM EST
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I really don't understand you as a diarist... (2.00 / 5)

Sometimes you put out really wonderful stuff, then you put out rather stupid and pointless tripe like this. Because, after all, no one wants to save marriages and keep a family together by trying to overcome emotional problems and relationship trauma.

Idiot.


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by zcflint05 on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 12:28:10 AM EST

If you agree, it's "really wonderful (none / 0)

stuff"?
If you disagree, it's "stupid and pointless tripe"?
Maybe s/he's just a good diarist with an unpredictable view who posts provocative well written pieces?
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 11:20:32 AM EST
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Your comments sicken me. (2.00 / 1)


by BJJ Fighter on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 12:49:09 AM EST

vile diary. feh. (2.00 / 3)


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 01:14:52 AM EST

Who (none / 0)

cares?


by hocuspocus on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 01:45:58 AM EST

Re: Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair (2.00 / 1)

DId Edwards campaign on a vow to eradicate infidelity? True, Edwards is a hypocrite for criticizing Bill for his infidelity. But please, Elizabeth has cancer. She probably knows with her sickness, their marital affairs will not be exactly what it was before. Sure, she is hurt. But if she choose to let it slide by, it is probably more of an understanding that a person needs an outlet sometimes. And if you read up about that twit lady with who Edwards fucked around with, you can tell she is the type who probably targeted Edwards because he had the right "vibe" or some shit.

The only scandal is Edwards using PAC money to pay an unqualified woman to film those webepisodes.


by Pravin on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 01:56:13 AM EST

Re: Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair (none / 0)

there is a bigger point, and it has to do with having a hidden bomb that could cost us an election.  Why doesn't the DNC have some kind of vetting process, and get potential candidates to agree to return donations, if they've hidden a sexual scandal. or one that has to do with accepting bribes.

If they had to pay their donor money into the DNC general fund, maybe they'd decide early on to disclose or to not run.   All they have to do is disclose, and that would be enough.  We elected Bill after we knew about one big affair, but we knew it before we elected him.  

You can't put all wives in the same pot. Elizabeth had the hubris to admit she knew and did not disclose, and she went on to be judgmental. There is a lot to admire about her, but not that.   But most wives are the last to know.  


what a relief
by anna shane on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 02:27:23 PM EST
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I wish you would (2.00 / 3)

put as much passion into attacking McSame.

Scratch that, more passion, and leave the candidates that are not involved in this race anymore out of everything.

PUHlease.


by IowaMike on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 03:02:37 AM EST

Re: Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair (none / 0)

I think this guy or gal is just posting things to start flame wars and make us look bad.


Because I wont trade humanity for patriotism!
by Drewid on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 03:48:09 AM EST

Re: Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair (2.00 / 1)

I see what you're saying, and understand your feelings. I'm incredulous but thankful Edwards didn't win the nomination, hope his paternity test comes up negative, and pray he'll then just disappear.


by phoenixdreamz on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 04:36:35 AM EST

Re: Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair (none / 0)

I hope he returns his contributions to the DNC general fund, and then disappears.  Maybe some smart trial lawyer can sue him on behalf of his donors, a class action suit. Let's protect naive donors from being deceived into turning over their hard earned bucks for a shame investment.  


what a relief
by anna shane on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 02:29:32 PM EST
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Two days of this is enough (2.00 / 2)

Time to move on


by alamedadem on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 04:55:41 AM EST

Re: Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair (none / 0)

It seems to me that people don't like this diary simply because EEdwards has cancer.


Killing me softly with his song
by Miles Outlandish on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 06:53:15 AM EST

That's part of it. (none / 0)

Seems like a good enough reason to me, even regardless of anything else.


by Dumbo on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 08:48:38 AM EST
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Re: Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair (none / 0)

wrong ---   that's a small part of it. this is perezhilton unworthy gossipy armchair punditry from someone obviously unqualified for that measly a job.

it serves no purpose but to perpetuate the dispicable moralising going on even at MyDD for god's sake on this affair --- now it ups the anty by blaming the wife, and in a comment above even the 'twit lady'. it even gets in a gratuitous jab at Hillary.

this kind of diary discredits MyDD. it's trashy.


by swissffun on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 04:26:05 PM EST
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Re: Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair (none / 0)

I'm not really sure how an affair would affect his policy stances, but regardless, it's a moot point, because he isn't in the running anymore.
Now if you'd like to talk about John McCain, who is running for president, who left his first wife for a woman with a lot of money who could further his political goals, then you might have something worth discussing. And of course his close relationship with Vicki Iseman, as recently as a few months ago.
As it is, the Edwards affair has been discussed ad nauseum over the blogosphere, so you're kind of late to the party.
"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 07:00:02 AM EST

Re: Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair (2.00 / 2)

Or maybe she knew John Edwards' policy would be better for our country and Americans as a whole and her marital issues didn't change that.  @@


by jrsygrl on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 10:40:16 AM EST

Re: Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair (2.00 / 1)

Just because John Edwards had an affair does not mean he doesn't care about the issues he talked about during the campaign.  He and Elizabeth are both passionate people who believe that things should change in DC, and that all americans deserve health care.  They both wanted to make a difference and they did.  They both have opened our eyes to things that would not have been talked about if John Edwards would not have been in the race for president.  I believe that he and Elizabeth felt that they had great ideas and policies and believed in what they were doing.  I think that they threw all their cards into the race and they had to play it to the end.  Elizabeth Edwards wanted to make a difference and she has.


by Spanky on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 10:42:56 AM EST

Re: Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair (none / 0)

If she knew it in 2006 itself, then when he made the announcement in 2007, or even prior to that, they should have done the Clintons' 60 minutes type of thing and let this cat out of the bag, if they are responsible, conscientious, caring adults.

But of course, sponsoring the IWR was orders of magnitude worse.  


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by DraftChickenHawks on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 02:44:47 PM EST
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Re: Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair (none / 0)

Both John and Elizabeth are guilty of hubris for putting their own personal ambitions above the Democrat's dream of retaking the White House.


by BigBoyBlue on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 11:40:32 AM EST

Re: Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair (none / 0)

ok pious judge - what's the sentence then for their hubris? really, get a grip.


by swissffun on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 04:30:55 PM EST
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What gets me is the continued lying... (1.33 / 3)

Yeah, right, he's not the father...but of course, we aren't doing any testing to verify that....totally unnecessary....trust us...

LIARS!


by SoCalVet on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 11:47:04 AM EST

Re: What gets me is the continued lying... (none / 0)

maybe asking these sorts of personal questions DESERVE a lie. you want more of the papparazzi reality - stick to britney and leave my politicians out of it. what gets me is why this is a big deal. perhaps the people should start reevaluating current culture and stop demanding scandal while demanding puritan politicians. then there's be no lying!


by swissffun on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 04:29:38 PM EST
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Re: Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair (2.00 / 2)

Blaming the wife (Elizabeth or Hillary) is a little like blaming the rape victim...

those that say she should have fought back harder....

I don't buy it.

THIS IS 100% EDWARDS - he is an asshole - pure and simple.

Elizabeth if fighting breast cancer with 2 little kids.

Just as Hillary was the damn First Lady with a teen age daughter.

It's NOT their fault and none of us have a clue as to what is going on in their household(s).


by nikkid on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 12:38:39 PM EST

Re: Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair (2.00 / 1)

New Rules Proposition for MyDD:

1) Posting an inflammatory diary based on tabloid reporting and THEN abandoning the diary thread - is Troll Behavior.

Don't post crap like this unless you've got the guts to stick around and defend it.


by swissffun on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 04:44:46 PM EST

Re: Mrs. Edwards' Honesty Suspect on Affair (none / 0)

I need a shower after reading this. This is low.


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